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post Aug 11 2009, 09:08 AM
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I eat at New Seasons frequently, Orenco Station. I always pay right after I put my order in. But like VJ said, you can pay any time. It's a complete honor system. Mostly though, it's a deli counter at a supermarket. So just as if you were ordering Chinese & a sandwich at Safeway, or a wok bowl & sandwich at Whole Foods, you'll probably have to stand around holding the Chinese or wok bowl while waiting for the sandwich to be made, before heading over to the few tables in the corner to sit down & eat. The dynamics are similar in most grocery stores.

And yes, lunchtime is insanely slammed at New Seasons. However, you can avoid most of it by placing your order online through their website, and they'll have it ready for you to pick up when you get there! Here's the link: http://www.newseasonsmarket.com/foodStores.aspx?edm=1



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post Aug 11 2009, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE (vj @ Aug 11 2009, 09:09 AM) *
QUOTE (sacman @ Aug 10 2009, 10:42 PM) *
QUOTE (ExtraMSG @ Aug 10 2009, 09:53 AM) *

Ordering was a little funky in that people seem to stand in multiple undefined lines. Also, you pay after you receive your food, but then you've got to be holding all this food while you pay, which is a pain.
What I'm getting at here is that restaurants need to make it as convenient as possible to order from them. Do NOT freaking screw with my lunch hour. Like lots of workers, I am on a strict time budget, and if you mess with that, you are going to get hit right in the pocketbook.


Sacman, he's talking about a grocery store.

You can pay whenever you want, whereever you want. Usually, I run over and pay right after I make the order., before I have a plate to juggle. But a lot of times if I'm picking up groceries too, I'll bring the order slip with the groceries and ring it up then. I've even just said to the cashier, I had a salad and a Vernors, and s/he'll just ring it in.

And yes, you do have to kinda mill around, and the east side stores don't have a lot of room for that.


I know it's a grocery store...I shop there all the time. Sorry if I implied otherwise. The issue I had with the pizzeria just happened recently and it ticked me off to the point of irrationality. So when I read Nick's post about how New Seasons made things less convenient than they could have been, I was all over that shit.

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post Aug 11 2009, 05:50 PM
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Nick, your photos usually make even bad food look good, but that pizza from Dove Vivi looks absolutely puke worthy. The salad looks tasty, but I'd have to add back the blue cheese.
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post Aug 16 2009, 06:21 PM
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Was in the high desserts of the mountain states last week for a wedding in Idaho Falls and a reception in Jackson. Having lived in Wyoming and Utah, I wasn't hopeful for my vegan options.

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First big disappointment came in Hermiston, where we decided to get lunch after a late start. (We were driving.) I decided to take us through Hermiston because it had been years since I'd been through and I'm always interested to see Hispanic immigrant communities, Hermiston being one of Oregon's great agricultural towns. The options surpassed my hopes, but not for me. Came upon Fiesta Foods, a fabulous Latino supermarket chain with four stores from Yakima through Hermiston. With all their options, though, there was nothing for me. Their beans used lard. They didn't have have a nopales salsa or anything like that. I was jealous of my wife and sister who got over-sized pupusas and guisados.

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We had seen a place selling fresh-made juices on the way in. Unfortunately, I think the place, Ruty's, is on its last legs. They were out of many of the fruits/vegetables their menu offered. I got carrot-orange juice and it tasted like it was made the day before, not freshly made like it should be. It tasted too much like carrots that had gone limp in the fridge. I didn't even get halfway through it. I should have got a juice at Fiesta.

Luckily, my wife had packed lots of fruit and nuts in the car. I resigned myself to eating trailmix for the next 5 hours. When we stopped to get gas at a truckstop in La Grande, I went inside and asked the cafe if they would make a taco salad without cheese, meat, or sour cream and with extra guacamole. They said no. More trailmix until Boise.

Choosing between Thai, Indian, and Lebanese for a meal in Boise, we went with Indian. After searching online reviews, we settled on Madhuban, which seemed to be considered the best in Boise. I was hoping it would be southern Indian, but it was very northern. I was hoping it would be good, but it was mediocre at best.

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Veggie samosas were okay. The texture of the shell was fine, crisp, not too greasy. But the interior was dry and a bit bland.

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I only got to try my curry, the channa masala, since my wife's mutter paneer and her sister's korma had dairy in them. The channa masala was heavy on ginger, heavy on tomatoes, heavy on dried chili, but acceptable.

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The korma was weird. It appeared to have canned fruit used in it.

Our server was pretty bad. She forgot things, cut us off while ordering, would have flung dirty silverware on us, had I not grabbed them, among other things. If this is the best of Boise, I'd probably just make my own Indian food.


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post Aug 16 2009, 07:32 PM
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It'd been several years since I'd been to Idaho Falls. I was always just passing through to Wyoming, Yellowstone, or flyfishing waters north of there. I always liked the look of the falls and river area set against an attractive Mormon temple. If I had time, I'd explore the Hispanic immigrant community there. I did see some carnicerias and tiendas. I was surprised by how sad their downtown is, though. Little towns in Oregon, like Baker City, have more attractive and less degraded city centers.

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At first, we were going to meet a bunch of family at Snake River Grill. We got there and no one else was there. Looking at the menu, they had little more than a veggie burger for me -- and I couldn't be sure it was vegan. It was a cute little place, but instead we went a couple blocks to a Thai restaurant, Thai House. We asked for the dinner menu because the lunch menu was as much Chinese as Thai. After ordering, they even brought us some egg flower soup, which we didn't eat.

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No salad rolls on the menu, we went with spring rolls instead. They had sauteed cabbage and carrots inside and little else. They were crisp and not too greasy, but a little hard. Now that I think about it, it's very possible the shells had egg and I probably should have skipped them. It wouldn't have been much of a loss. The sweet and sour sauce tasted like a Chinese fast food sauce.

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My wife got pad thai and it has to go down as the weirdest pad Thai ever. Well, in Jackson there'd be a challenge. It was very pad thai like in every way except the sauce, which was essentially just a sweet and sour sauce. It was goopier than any ketchup-based sauce I've ever had and not too enjoyable.

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That said, my tofu green curry was actually decent. Thank goodness for Mae Ploy, I guess. It wasn't too thin, had a little sourness, and the vegetables weren't too overcooked. The tofu was fried acceptably and there was plenty of it. Rice was overcooked.

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We also had Thai in Jackson. Jackson has three Thai restaurants: Teton Thai, Thai Me Up, and the newest, Bon Appe Thai. (Apparently there's an effort to one-up the competition in silly names.) Tried to hit Teton Thai one day for lunch, but it was closed. Tried to hit Bon Appe Thai twice, but once it was closed for lunch and the other it had just opened but already had a 45 minute wait list because of reservations. (It was weird to see how nowhere opened until 5:30pm and all closed by 9pm and few places were open for lunch. There were a lot of people wandering around at "off-hours" in Jackson looking for somewhere to eat besides McDonald's.)

Looking at the prices, I wished we'd gotten to one of the others. Seemed like they were trying to be midscale with a little fancier interior and prices to match. Most of the entrees were $15 and up. For the four of us, we ordered salad rolls, coconut fried tofu, pad kra pow, two curries, cashew chicken, and pad thai. All but the cashew chicken were vegan versions.

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Weird salad rolls. There was just raw cabbage, carrots, and some other veggies loosely wrapped served with a peanut sauce and a sweet chili sauce. The salad rolls themselves were entirely meh. The chili sauce wasn't as good as the usual jarred stuff, but the peanut sauce, which seemed to come with everything on the menu, was decent, thin but still peanutty with a little curry flavor and coconut milk.

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Coconut tofu were tasty. If there's ever a veggie version of a TGI Friday's, I expect these to be a popular item. They're just coconut battered tofu deep-fried.

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Tofu pad kra pow was also tasty. It was stir-fried tofu with onions, a lot of basil, probably curry paste, and a nice bit of lime. Small, but one of the more enjoyable items.

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Curries were okay. They didn't overly thin them, but they were a little flat. The rice was cooked properly, however. Mine had tomatillos in it. I suspect these were an alternative for Thai eggplants and I think they actually worked decently well.

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The pad thai was another weird one, although the menu warned of that. It said that it was devised in Los Angeles for the American palate and then modified even more for the owner's tastes. I think it was basically just their same peanut sauce drenching some rice noodles with some added lime juice. It wasn't bad, though it wasn't especially good either. I can see how a lot of people who don't want something too "exotic" might like it a lot.

Thai food in the Mountain States was a safe choice for edible vegan food, but I didn't eat anything truly good.



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post Aug 16 2009, 08:25 PM
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Jackson did have a veggie/vegan-oriented restaurant, The Lotus Cafe. Where else is Calista Flockhart going to not eat if there isn't an alternative foods cafe? The menu also had some meat items, but for the most part, items were vegan. They even had a pastry case filled with vegan and gluten-free cookies, cakes, etc. (I tried two, the lemon poppy cookie was decent, though a little crumbly. The other, a carob cookie, was dense and dirty tasting.)

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A large part of the menu are Indian dishes. Decided to try the "dal of the day", yellow split peas with rice, mint chutney, and a sweet chutney. The dal was desperately in need of salt, but otherwise fine, creamy and flavorful. It had raw baby spinach under it in the bowl, which was a bit odd.

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They had several Mexican and Middle Eastern choices. For tacos, you could choose buffalo or lentil. I went with lentil. They came with rice, salsa, vegan sour cream, and unsalted blue corn chips. The yellow corn tortillas were lightly fried, more chewy than crisp. Inside were the nicely cooked and flavorful lentils along with slices of carrot, cabbage, and some other veggies. Some crisper shells, maybe some pickled veggies with the lentils, and this would have been pretty good.

Both dishes suffered from a lot of the same problems dishes at vegan places suffer from out here: poor seasoning, too much emphasis on a variety of food niches, too much emphasis on making things analogous to meat dishes. But basically, they were decent. Certainly no worse than the Thai food.


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post Aug 16 2009, 10:31 PM
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The best looking food on the trip was at the reception -- berry pies with butter crusts, ham, freshly made dinner rolls, a pyramid of cupcakes with buttercream and edible flowers topping them, etc -- none of which I could eat. I skipped over the fruit salad, the only thing I could eat.

The best food I did eat on the trip came at the two gourmet grocers, one newly opened in Jackson called the Pearl Street Market and the other in Boise, The Boise Coop.

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The Pearl Street Market is in the heart of town and only two months old. It's Jackson's version of Pastaworks or Eastmoreland Market.

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It has fresh produce.

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Gourmet bottled and dry goods.

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Imported cheeses.

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A pretty meat counter and even game meats in the freezer.

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They have a deli area where there are prepared foods, such as grilled meats, casseroles, and salads. You can also order sandwiches.

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They also have a salad bar priced by the pound.

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They had plenty of choices for a vegan, though no proteins. This salad I made cost about $5 and had greens, beats, watercress, green beans, cucumbers, slivered almonds, and croutons.

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I also got a veggie sandwich -- avocado, sprouts, onions, tomato, cucumber, and hummus on house-baked ciabata. It was tasty.

Nothing earth-shattering, but everything was fresh and enjoyable and pretty inexpensive.


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post Aug 16 2009, 11:44 PM
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The Boise Co-op is a large organic grocer, similar in size and scope to a New Seasons or Whole Foods. I would have hoped for better produce, but you can't dislike a place that has a sign like this:

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We were there primarily just to get something vegan that didn't suck on the way home. We were tired of mediocre Thai, so we decided this would be safer.

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Their deli counter's prepared foods actually had a lot of vegan options, many with good proteins. They also had several sandwich choices.

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My wife and I each got a sandwich, me the veggie sandwich with vegan substitutes for things like the cheese. We got three different salads: bowtie pasta, bread salad, and tofu miso.

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The bowtie pasta were cooked perfectly and mixed with pine nuts and wilted baby spinach. They were dressed with a garlicky olive oil.

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The bread salad had cherry tomatoes, celery, onion, and another garlicky dressing, though tangier than the bowtie pasta.

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I loved how protein rich this salad was. It had not only tofu, but edamame and some sort of choy. It was a little bitter and tofu too "raw" for my taste, but it was so nice to get this much protein at once.

Each of the salads had plenty of flavor and there was a lot of variety between them.

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My veggie sandwich was really creamy and crunchy with avocado, vegan mayo, vegan cheese, sprouts, onion, lettuce, and tomato. There might have been a hummus on it as well. It was on a ciabata roll.

Everything was good. I wouldn't expect better from New Seasons or Whole Foods.


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post Aug 18 2009, 05:58 PM
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In calling around some of Portland's nicer restaurants, Veritable Quandary was one of the more enthusiastic responses I got, noting their local fresh produce and recommending they make something off-menu. Besides some service issues, it was a pretty good meal, too.

The server didn't know that I was a vegan when we were seated. I told her and she didn't really know which items were vegan and which weren't. She had to go back to the kitchen a couple times. She wasn't even sure which items I could make vegan. Even though the menu touts the restaurant as vegan and vegetarian friendly, I felt like I was doing most of the work, making suggestions, etc. They seemed unprepared, though I had made an issue of a vegan being in the party when I called about the reservation. They definitely came across as the least prepared of the nicer restaurants. It may have just been bad luck on that specific server, though. Perhaps she was new. She also forgot to bring us bread.

(The grey skies made for mediocre lighting despite being near a window. I thought they were coming out better than they actually did. I'll get a new camera when I finally can do my taxes.)



We started with the "stack". The only change from the menu was no mozzarella. I actually think this napolean of eggplant, roasted peppers, heirloom tomatoes, and basil, garnished with pinenuts and dressed with balsamic and olive oil would have made a very good and inexpensive main course. You can't quite tell how big it was from the photo, but it was relatively hefty. Much larger than I expected. I didn't feel like the cheese would have added much, either. A creamy nut spread or maybe a bed of nice cannelini beans might add some tasty protein, but they wouldn't improve the dish flavor-wise. Just quality ingredients handled adeptly. The sliced green olives in the dressing were nice briney touch.



We also got the grilled pizza, minus the prosciutto and cheese, as a starter. The dough could have been crisper and cooked more. It needed some salt to make up for the lack of prosciutto, but the mix of figs, onions, arugula, and nuts worked well together. The cipollini onions kind of dominated the flavor. Either using caramelized onions or using less of them might have put it in better balance. Also, the flavor of the figs could have been brought out more. A little acid can really bring out their sweetness.

My wife got the duck confit with cipollinis and cherries for her main. It looked nice and she seemed to like it.



They created an entree for me, a fricasee of wax beans, tomatoes, summer squash, spinach, corn, and onions over their "basmati rice verde" -- basmati enhanced with cilantro and lime. It was an excellent combo and while the fresh veggies lightly sauteed were excellent, the basmati's brightness and aroma made the whole dish sing. Much more than I hoped for from the description of a "fricasee".

The only dessert option for me was their selection of sorbets. However, they only do one flavor for $6, so I passed. Overall another solid vegan meal.


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I'd been eager to get back to Metrovino for a while. I wanted to hit another higher end place in Portland for vegan food, but a friend who generally despises such places and is much happier with BBQ or Thai was in town. I searched through menus to find a place that would work. I thought Metrovino, since it has a burger and a meat-centric menu, would be a good choice. They also had recommended that I let them make something off-menu for me when I called, which put them towards the top of the list. It ended up being three of us and this was the first time in the whole month (and this was the second to the last day on the diet) that I was jealous of others' food -- and what I got was still exquisite.



We started with their bread and slow-cooked leeks in oil. I don't know if I said this on my first visit, but damn these are luxurious. It's like smearing the best garlic butter ever on your bread. It's a big step up from bread and butter at other places and I have no problem paying for it, even if the bread is just from Bridgeport. (It's good bread, but you'd get better bread from Ken's or Pearl.)



I started with their beet salad minus the cheese. It comes with avocados, pine nuts, and orange. With the avocado, I don't think the ricotta salata matters at all. The beets, in three colors, were perfect tenderness and nicely dressed. All the flavors went great together. It was bright, rich, sweet, and earthy. A little greens and chives helped round out the flavors.

While I would have loved to try the great looking marrow bones my friend got, it was the fabulous charcuterie plate that had me jealous. It looked like delicious treat after delicious treating, including: smoked ivory salmon with creme fraiche, salmon rillette, duck rillette with candied tangerine, a mixture of short rib, morels and marrow battered and fried, prosciutto-wrapped green beans, spicy house-smoked bacon with pickled summer squash and jalapeno jelly, mustard, seasonings, and house pickles. I only got to try the pickles, which were excellent.



I also ordered their gazpacho, minus the shrimp ceviche. They did a quick "ceviche" of mixed vegetables instead. Seeing the seafood version, I was totally fine with mine. The silken strips of avocado contrasted texturally with the islands of popcorn. The broth had a nice tomato flavor enriched with oil, but the lime or lemon used seemed a little bitter. Maybe a splash of red wine vinegar would have worked better, if it was indeed the citrus causing the odd bitterness.

My friend ordered the slow roasted pork shoulder with chanterelles, new potatoes, green beans, and chimichurri. It was nearly spoon tender and he seemed to enjoy it a lot, though it was a little subtle for his palate, I think.



For me, they created what one of my dining companions rightly described as an "assortment of side dishes". Apt, and perhaps it would have been smarter and better to make something more focused and entree-like, but I can't complain too much. Each one was delicious: roasted tomatoes topped with roasted artichoke heart, fried sage, and chervil; lentils topped with cauliflower, summer squash, and butternut squash; figs, pinenuts, and spinach rolled in thin slices of eggplant; a melange of green beans, chanterelles, corn, hazelnut, and watermelon.

My favorite was the watermelon mixture. Vegetal green beans, meaty mushrooms, sweet corn, nuts, and refreshing fruit making for a perfect dish, touching each part of the tongue. A little salt and a slightly tangy dressing made sure that the palate was fully invigorated.

The eggplant wraps were probably the coolest item, but they didn't quite have the flavor punch they needed. There was something missing. I think the bitterness of the greens against such a mildly sweet fruit just kept it from being in balance. The other two were exactly as they sounded and excellent.

We skipped dessert. I don't think there was anything for me anyway. We headed to Cool Moon instead where I got their orange-pinapple sorbet. A little gummy, but tasty.


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Went to Tabla last weekend with my family who were all in town, including my sister's new boyfriend who is vegan. When I made the reservation I let them know there would be a vegan in the party. They made an entire three-course meal for him! He absolutely loved it. It was all really fresh, seasonal ingredients starting with a cucumber soup (can't remember the rest but thought his main looked fabulous). I didn't try any of it and, personally, I'm not sure how I would feel having this big meal made for me in advance - what if they included ingredients I don't like, or what if I didn't want that much food, etc...But, he loved it and appreciated them thinking about him and making an effort. Just another nicer restaurant that might be worth checking out during your adventure.

Btw, the food was really fabulous, the desserts were pretty bad, and we had some service issues for sure, but all in all, a good meal and I am looking forward to going back.
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The best prepared of the Portland fine dining restaurants I visited -- and the last one I'll report on -- was Le Pigeon. Honestly, I was surprised when I called that they were so receptive. I didn't even bother calling Beast, knowing their policy, and I figured the restaurant that only makes five burgers a night and then makes everyone else order pork belly and beef cheeks, would be more like Toro Bravo and just tell me that what they had was what they had. Nope. The person on the phone was one of the more enthusiastic people I talked to about a reservation. She said that the kitchen enjoyed making something special and that those who'd had the meals had been quite pleased. Okay. When Sel Gris was so unreceptive, surprisingly, that gave it the final slot.*

When we got there and sat down, one of the first questions from the server was which of us was vegan. She then said that the kitchen was looking forward to the meal and had prepared a full meal for me if I wanted to put myself in their hands. If I had any requests or things I didn't like, she said they'd be happy to take them into account. She even said the kitchen wanted to know if honey was okay because they had a special dessert planned. (I said yes to the honey.) I should add that I've bitched a little about service at Le Pigeon before. They're charging similar prices to Wildwood, Paley's, Bluehour, and Ten-01. Maybe a little lower since they don't have NY steaks, but basically about the same. But in the past, the service hadn't been as attentive as those places. I don't need formal service -- I don't even like formal service -- but it's nice to think the server gives a damn about my meal. In the past, I'd felt sometimes like I was in the way at Le Pigeon. That was definitely not the case this night and just paying attention it seems like Le Pigeon may have put some effort into service.



Kind of weak bread, just some baguette, but they did bring oil for me without me asking and had a pat of butter topped with a sprinkle of salt for my wife.

I've been avoiding showing the meat dishes in this thread for the most part, just linking to them mostly. And especially with this one, maybe I shouldn't offend the sensibilities of the vegans, but damn if this didn't look like a fantastic foie gras course:



That's a foie gras and avocado terrine with lemon brioche toast and cherry tomato jam. I believe the yellow bits around the outside of the terrine are preserved lemon. The avocado was "lemon cured" as well, if I remember correctly, probably to keep it from discoloring as much as anything. Great idea. It's the vegetable version of foie gras with the animal version. My wife said the various elements did a great job of countering the richness of the foie.



I started with a salad of escarole, pickled peppers, tomato jam, and croutons on a ripe slice of tomato. I think there was something citrusy, too, perhaps the preserved lemon from their regular escarole salad. A vibrant dish -- it really packed a punch and tickled the tongue.

My wife got the poussin with shell beans, corn, and chanterelles with a slice of tomato. I think there was some sort of pesto as well. It was a big dish and she took about half of it home. I had to take most of the meat off the bone for her and it was still quite moist, not overcooked at all.



My entree started with a bed of fregola, a sort of over-sized cous cous, even bigger than Israeli cous cous. Atop the pasta was a nice summer mixture of chanterelles, corn, summer squash, frisee, cherry tomatoes, and green beans. A garlicky dairy-free pesto brought everything together as did a splash of acid.

My wife got the apricot bread pudding with noyaux ice cream. She seemed to really like it.



However, they easily gave me the best vegan dessert of the entire month and my favorite dish of the night: a grilled peach topped with apricot slices, raspberries, basil, honey, and a cinnamon crisp. Terrific. This was some sort of candied citrus peel and lemon sauce as well. It was bright, with several layers and variations of sweetness. There was the juicy, meltingly tender grilled peach in contrast the the crisp cracker. The cinnamon added a spicy element that countered so much sweet. The aromatic basil added one more complimentary layer of flavor. I didn't envy those with bacon-maple ice cream this night.

Definitely one of the best experiences of this whole thing. I know it can be hard for vegans to reach out to a restaurant that revels in its carniverocity. But I can say that these carnivores are reaching out to vegans with open arms. I was impressed.





























* Though while Sel Gris was just unreceptive, Clarklewis was downright comical. I called them and asked if they were vegan friendly, the lady said that they would alter any of their menu options so that I could eat them. I said that I didn't eat any animals, dairy, or eggs and pointed out that the menu online didn't really have anything for me unless the pastas didn't use egg. She asked if I also didn't eat fish. I reiterated no animals, dairy, or egg. She asked the kitchen about the pasta and it did use egg. She said that mostly I could just have lighter salads without cheese, asking once again if I also couldn't eat fish. It reminded me of a friend who in college used to order even tacos "without plants". The person behind the counter would often ask, "What about tomatoes?" He'd respond: "That's a plant." "What about lettuce?" On and on. I figured Clarklewis would be the more vegan-friendly spot being in Southeast and having the farm-fresh history. Bluehour was waaaay more accomodating, though, when I called. I just never got around to one of Bruce Carey's venues, though that would have been it. The trip to Idaho got in the way of meals at Bluehour and Carlyle, which were the other two I would have gone to had I a little more time. Both were very helpful and welcoming on the phone.


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QUOTE (ExtraMSG @ Aug 18 2009, 09:40 PM) *
The trip to Idaho got in the way of meals at Bluehour and Carlyle, which were the other two I would have gone to had I a little more time. Both were very helpful and welcoming on the phone.


Have you considered, although your self-imposed time frame has ended, to go ahead and grab a vegan meal at either of these (or both) anyways?
I've been enjoying your vegan foray, and if - as you say- they were helpful and welcoming, it might be worth it to go check it out.

(I'm currently to busy, and to tight on funds, to go.) And it would be nice to see a comparison to the other vegan meals you've had.....


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I actually went over by a couple meals to get a couple more vegan places in (Proper Eats, Portobello). I spent $1200 on food during that month, not including cash meals, groceries for my wife, or the food on the Idaho/Wyoming trip. Someone else can step up for once.


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QUOTE (ExtraMSG @ Aug 19 2009, 01:35 PM) *
I actually went over by a couple meals to get a couple more vegan places in (Proper Eats, Portobello). I spent $1200 on food during that month, not including cash meals, groceries for my wife, or the food on the Idaho/Wyoming trip. Someone else can step up for once.

Your research is appreciated!....Curious to find out what your first non-vegan meal will be.
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Your research is definitely appreciated. I found this vegan-for-a-month thing to be really interesting.


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I should probably listen to this before passing it on, but I'm sure nothing I say in this podcast is the DUMBEST thing I've ever said online....

http://stumptownveganspodcasts.com/2009/11...k-zukin-part-1/


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Now you've made that tune start all over again in my head...sing with me now!

Stumptown Vegans sing this song....


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Nick, thanks for posting the link. I really enjoyed the podcast. And somehow, I had missed the entry on Le Pigeon -- and man, do I want to go eat there soon!

Thanks for sharing your vegan challenge with us...
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is Part 2 of the interview posted somewhere that I can't see?
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